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 #1624  by Buster_BSA
 Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:00 pm
gjf wrote:Some investigations using Hypersight tool concerning TDL3.
My doubt is if TDL3 was detected when it was running already on the system or if the rootkit detector was running and then the sample of TDL3 was launched.

It´s not the same to detect an already running rootkit than a non running rootkit.
 #1625  by gjf
 Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:18 pm
Buster_BSA wrote: It´s not the same to detect an already running rootkit than a non running rootkit.
Yes, you're right, but sometimes this very important information is missing.
And it should be taken into account that some malware has quite agressive self-defense which prevents starting ARKs in active infection stage.
 #1639  by EP_X0FF
 Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:46 am
This is very likely Symantec caused. Before trying any antirootkits first and main rule: uninstall/disable/remove any security products (Antiviruses, Firewalls, IPS) - because they are commercial rootkits and their activity trashing any kind of results from antirootkit.
 #1649  by Maniac
 Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:55 pm
SUPERAntiSpyware 4.90.1018 Pre-Release
· Faster scanning in both Quick and Complete Scan modes (varies on each system)
· Additional TDSS Detection/Removal (Stealth Rootkit/Removal Technology)
· Heuristic Engine speed increases
· Last update on the way to the 5.0 pre-release - MAJOR update! Many user requested features including super fast scanning and more!
 #1681  by EP_X0FF
 Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:44 pm
http://www.superantispyware.com/product ... PYWAREFREE
07/21/2010 4.41.1000 Technology Changes

* Faster scanning in both Quick and Complete Scan modes (varies on each system)
* Additional TDSS Detection/Removal (Stealth Rootkit/Removal Technology)
* Heuristic Engine speed increases
* Last update on the way to the 5.0 pre-release - MAJOR update! Many user requested features including super fast scanning and more!
I tried SAS v4.41.1000 against TDL3 (see attach) and SAS found nothing.
[main]
version=3.273
quote=You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus
botid=
affid=20492
subid=0
installdate=29.7.2010 14:32:38
builddate=29.7.2010 12:27:23
rnd=1606980848
[injector]
*=tdlcmd.dll
[tdlcmd]
servers=hxxps://dujdinganx.in/;hxxps://91.212.226.67/;hxxps://nichtadden.in/;hxxps://li1i16b0.com/;hxxps://zz87jhfda88.com/;hxxps://n16fa53.com/;hxxps://01n02n4cx00.cc/;hxxps://lj1i16b0.com/
wspservers=hxxp://zl00zxcv1.com/;hxxp://zloozxcv1.com/;hxxp://71ha6dl01.com/;hxxp://axjau710h.com/;hxxp://rf9akjgh716zzl.com/;hxxp://dsg1tsga64aa17.com/;hxxp://l1i1e3e3oo8as0.com/;hxxp://7gafd33ja90a.com/;hxxp://n1mo661s6cx0.com/
popupservers=hxxp://clkh71yhks66.com/
version=3.941
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/5e61 ... 1280413209
Attachments
pass: malware
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 #1683  by Meriadoc
 Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:09 pm
Confirmed here, http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthre ... ost1716070

I've never yet been able to detect TDL3 with SAS. Also many time I've tested SAS removing rootkits, it just lead to BSODs.

edit: made sas comment clearer.
Last edited by Meriadoc on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.
 #1685  by Quads
 Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:22 pm
I can also confirm that a week or so ago when I had SAS updated, I tried it on TDL3 without success of detection. (I didn't get a BSOD though)

I wonder if the TDSS update for SAS was for detection of TDL2 variants (PRAGMA, H8SRT, _VOID etc.)

Quads
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